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- From: Paul Boos <pboos@sysplan.com>
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- Subject: Re: AB3D II beats Quake....
- Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 16:48:11 -0800
- Organization: Rechenzentrum Universitaet Hohenheim
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- Fabio Bizzetti wrote:
-
- [...stuff omitted...]
-
- > What sucks is the AGA chipset, I hope they'll give dualport chipram: they would
- > understand after how wise this choice will have been, even more than the CdRom.
-
- Let's face it, the next step up is 24-bit. It seems unwise to me to
- design your own 24-bit boards when so many cheap ones are available.
- But, it would seem beneficial to put together a custom layout of these
- chips to ensure, for example TV (NTSC and PAL, hey why not throw in
- SECAM)compatibility or 3-D rendering power., but these could be
- specialized add-ons so the base system could be cheap. I will be very
- disappointed if the next system is not 24-bit standard., it will mean to
- me that Amiga Tech is no longer interested in the Desktop Video market.
-
- >
- > What sucks++ is that AT is not *capable* to make innovative custom chips
- > (they can say it's not possible, but I know that every console producer makes
- > custom chips). So, being not capable to make them, the PowerAmiga is destined
- > to be another PC clone, with just a different CPU (PowerPC: btw, I bought a
- > book and studied it, and I'm very disappointed: IT SUCKS, all the other RISCs
- > are better, starting from the old and cheap Transputers) and a different OS.
- > But for me, a games maker, the OS is not important for the final software.
-
- While games have always been big on the Amiga, I believe AT is making the
- right decision not to cater to games programmers. You will be able to
- address the hardware directly, no one can stop you. This can be done on
- a PC now. But for other programs the OS should do all the hard work.
- Personally, I want the Amiga to be seen not as a game machine, but as the
- best computer for creativity, anytype - graphics, music, DTP. I have
- bought one game for the Amiga, I wish I hadn't I never play it. But I
- use my other s/w constantly - Aladdin-4D (anybody know who bought
- Adspec?), Pagestream, Bars & Pipes, etc.
-
- >
- > It seems that AT said << *everything* must be done with the OS, direct hardware
- > programming will not be allowed anymore >>. I never expected such an unwise
- > (I dont say "silly", because I must think they just aren't capable to make
- > better, for budget problems) decision about the new Amiga management.
- > I recall A1200 and CD32 market died because some "C++ programmers" or managers
- > didn't allow direct hardware programming. Cool ignorant people.
- >
- > 8(((
- >
- > If AT wants this shit from PowerAmiga, then IMHO the *last* Amiga will be the
- > 680x0 and AGA based ones. The PowerAmiga will be a PC with just another CPU.
-
- [...stuff deleted...]
-
- > We should have gathered 10000 people through Internet, and bought the Commodore
- > by ourselves. ;-<
-
- Not a bad idea, why didn't you organize it? It simply wouldn't have
- worked. Everyone has different ideas about what a good computer is. As
- we can tell most people believe WINTEL machines are the best... We know
- better. My 4000 can run rings around a Win95 Pentium anyday. Not for
- raw speed, but for reliability and core OS functions.
-
- As for the PowerPC being worse than other RISCs. That is true, it is the
- low end of the RISC processors. It was the right decision for AT. You
- can use 680x0 code on a PPC. It also is better than a Pentium Pro for
- most tasks done on a tru multi-tasking machine. The PPC can do 3
- different kinds of tasks at once. Most of the timne this will average
- out to about 1.5 tasks being done per cycle, it is a dramatic performance
- gain over a faster processor that can only do 1 task per cycle.
- Especially if the clock speeds are anywhere near equivalent.
-
- It is unfortunate that you are so willing to leave the Amiga market.Your
- choice to hack toward the hardware (and then demanding that the hardrware
- be customized to your needs - games), puts you in a minority of the
- people Amiga Tech needs for growing its business I believe. While games
- are always nice for most people, they also usually want to do work,
- whether its creative or simply typing a letter. Most hardwrae hacks
- don't multi-task well, if at all. I am not interested in using a program
- that can't multi-task. If I am going to play a game, it will probably be
- while my machine renders an animation. I don't want it to crash when I
- get three hours into it...
-
- The main thing I would like to see is for AT to integrate the Java chip
- set into the machine. See another of my "news articles" where I talk
- about this.
-
- Keep at Amiga Tech, you're doing OK by me.
-
- Paul Boos
- Information Systems Engineer
- pboos@sysplan.com
- >
- > I never believed that I would have thought this, but now I must judge real
- > facts: the PowerAmiga will born with much more *bad* problems than any quality.
- >
- > Who will support such an anonymous abort? If I wanna program the PC hardware,
- > I program the PC. The PowerPC CPU *sucks bigtime*, if I've to learn another
- > CPU, why should I learn PowerPC and not 80x86 that gives some food back?
- >
- > I miss the true Amigas.
- >
- > For being "idealist", I wasted more than 1 year of fulltime work on the Amiga,
- > to make my first commercial game and live with it, and I got only 1549 UKP,
- > still believing in what I was doing, to live the hunger (I've to mantain
- > myself, I am not lucky as many students) in sight of a future for my Amiga.
- >
- > Well,from the deepest of my heart: FUCK OFF AT, you made it all become useless.
- >
- > >-- Rustybrain -- Sigop AMIGAvsPC at Global Issue (tlf.56599956) CALL NOW!
- > >#|-T&T-Tags-|# "Den gruoppvekkende kosmo-kablangen!"
- >
- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
- > | |
- > | Stop that fucking imperialist embargo against Cuba. |
- > | Hasta Siempre Comandante Che Guevara. |
- > | |
- > | |
- > | Fabio "Maverick" Bizzetti - bizzetti@mbox.vol.it - Maverick* at IRC |
- > | The maker of "CyberMan" and "Virtual Karting" |
- > | working on "Virtual Rally" and "StarFighter", the 3D game that will |
- > | bring the Amiga to the top |
- > | |
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